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Post by Bill Chadwick on Aug 5, 2011 6:08:23 GMT -5
Over 5000 years ago, Moses said to Israel, "Pick up your shovels, mount your asses and camels, & I will lead you to the Promised Land." When Welfare was introduced, Roosevelt said, "Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses, & light up a Camel, this is the Promised Land." Today, the government has stolen your shovel, taxed your asses, raised the price of Camels & mortgaged the Promised Land to China...
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Post by crazyohlman on Aug 5, 2011 7:21:26 GMT -5
To-day the REPUBLICANS have stolen your shovel,Taxed your asses except the rich,raised the price of Camels, and mortgaged the promise land in favor of the rich and china (IRS-- Over 1400 millionaires Paid no income taxes in 2009)
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Post by Bill Chadwick on Aug 5, 2011 8:00:07 GMT -5
BUT $888 billion in Welfare in a single fiscal year–2010 is acceptable? I dont think so, get rid of the free-loaders that havent earned their way!
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Post by crazyohlman on Aug 5, 2011 8:05:50 GMT -5
That was stimulus to BIG business Not for the middle Class or the poor Part of that 1400 who haven't paid income tax! Some of it went to Infrastucture Roads Bridges , sewer systems, water distributing ETC .
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Post by Bill Chadwick on Aug 5, 2011 8:26:12 GMT -5
No that was WELFARE which included but not limited to Family & Children, Unemployment, Workers compensation, Housing, Social exclusions (IE: Payments to States for Child Support Enforcement and Family Supp, Refugee and Entrant Assistance, Payment Where Earned Income Credit Exceeds Liability for Tax) and that's not Social Security for retirees either, $888 BILLION is what was paid to non-retire age.
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Post by Bill Chadwick on Aug 5, 2011 8:26:52 GMT -5
My point is there are more people on public assistance than need it!
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Post by Bill Chadwick on Aug 5, 2011 8:29:57 GMT -5
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Post by crazyohlman on Aug 5, 2011 9:42:36 GMT -5
As full of shit as a So called capitalist(Chantrill) These policies have been in place for =--How many years??-- and many of which the repukes were and have been in charge The reason they are a problem now is because the repukes don't like the color of the President . Which is now bleeding over to hate for Democrates All that bull you stated never mentioning the welfare to the ultra rich Who have during the resession accured more wealth than ever before and paid less taxes. Welfare on welfare
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Post by dogracer71 on Aug 5, 2011 9:53:35 GMT -5
Mayb the drug testing in some states to b eligible for welfare will help. How fast u think theyl find ways around that too. People that work the system will always find ways as long as system is in place to cater to them. And fred uve never heard the saying the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. That's the american way
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Post by Bill Chadwick on Aug 5, 2011 10:17:59 GMT -5
We wouldnt have to borrow money from forgein countries if we cut out all the big government and people quit relying on the government to take care of them. Typical liberal response to throw out the race card. It has nothing to do with race or party. Obama, Democrats & Republicans have all screwed up the system. And Roosevelt started the mess, your right they have been in place for many years but no one in any party has had the balls to get rid of it. Help only those that need it!
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Post by Bill Chadwick on Aug 5, 2011 11:02:26 GMT -5
IRS-- Over 1400 millionaires Paid no income taxes in 2009 - Ever think maybe those were small business owners? What the IRS considers a millionaire and what you consider a millionaire are probably quite different. Just because a person had an income of a million does not necassarily mean they made a million dollars. There are a lot more federal taxes than just income tax. Darren's right, you will always have people that work the system rich or poor. You have crooks in every level.
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Post by crazyohlman on Aug 5, 2011 11:41:00 GMT -5
Race card---I haver heard every repuuke I know refer to Obama as that "MfIng Ni--- in the Whitehouse " The problem is that the sleazy repukes don't want to be reminded" -- Small business making a Million? Class my dogs as a small business! A millionair has a million dollars A CEO who takes home more than A million dollars a year is a parisite Its the work ers that made the money ! I don't think the United States ever borrow much from foreign countries untill Bush was Appointed In fact there was a surplus when he took office There are 60 billion not accounted for in Iraq have them Repukes that sent it over there find it I have no problem with policies that help those that either have fallen or can;t help their selves Granted there are those who take advantage a couple are in a family close to me I resent it Is that a reason to toss the rest under the bus?? Yep Delno bailed out the country with programs funded by the Government and the people and the Government done damn well untill a Repuke was elected and itwent to hell untill another democrate was elected and things went so good the Repukes couldn't stand it so they tryed impeachment The last eight years under a repuke led this country to where it is today Obama tried to use the same remedy that Roosevelt used The repukes seen it might work and baulked The are now standing in recess with the FAA crippled 700000 out of work because they are celebrating the one upmanship they pulled on Obama and the Democrates who made the mistake of thinking anyone could negotiate with sleaze! Governments are distroyed from with in The repuks have made a major step toward that end
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Post by Bill Chadwick on Aug 5, 2011 12:22:21 GMT -5
The Small Business Administration’s Office of Advocacy defines a small business as one with fewer than 500 employees. And yes many small businesses handle over a million dollars in a year but that doesn't mean the owner made a million dollars. CEO's are the first to take the fall when something goes wrong within a company. CEO's are the face of the company when it comes to investors and board members and without owners and CEO's there wouldnt be jobs for the workers. I make a damn good living at my job and I shouldn't be punished by paying higher taxes, just so some lazy ass with 7 kids can stay home all day. Everything I have or had I have got on my own. I was taught that you dont take the easy way out by turning to the government for help (bankruptcy, welfare, ect). I had a legit small business (gross sales over $500,000/yr) and because of the wonderful Clinton years is why I closed the doors and went to work for a corporation. I couldn't see working 80+ hours a week and giving it all back to the government at the end of the year.
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Post by crazyohlman on Aug 5, 2011 13:43:00 GMT -5
Who do you think your bullS---ing// The failiure of the banks this past causing this last depression Remember that?? The CEO's didn't get fired in fact they are now in line for record bonuses due to the deregulation of the banking industry during the last repuke administration. Small business doing a million dollars WORTH of business does not make millionaires! With out workers there would be no businesses for anyone to run Its their backs that get the work done Not some slave owner would-be sitting on his ass delegating !This country was founded on farmers and hands on workers Not the come late slave driver like there is to-day. If I had the opportunity to have a $500 000 business no one would drive me away from it not even a Bush deregulater Clinton didn't run you off you ran yourself off 80 hours a week would be about the right hours for $9920.63 a week thats $124 an hour No body is worth that kind of money Not even you! Taxes are lower right now then they have been in years In other words they are lower than when Reagan was in power You remember Reagan// He was a democrate and the President of a union (Used a union and the democratic party for advance ment then threw them under the bus (SLEAZE) untill he got elected to a state office Couldn't get a vote as a Repuke untill then
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Post by Bill Chadwick on Aug 5, 2011 13:58:35 GMT -5
See your not reading... I never said I MADE $500,000. I said it produced over $500,000 in GROSS sales. You're like most people, don't have a clue what it takes to run a business or how the business world works. Why would I keep a business open that I had to go to the bank and get a loan to pay the personal property tax, income tax, sales tax, worker's compensation and unemployment tax every year? If you can't pay your rent or put groceries on the table then there is no use in maitaining it. Unlike the government, I couldnt just print out more money. Actually the country was founded on freedom of religion and most were leaving England because of ridicule. Then the people were tired of being TAXED to death and decided to become indepentant. Do you really think the founding fathers were poor? No most of them were business owners and not farmers. Farming was necassary to survive and was not a business then.
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